Mr. Griffiths: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It’s a pleasure for me to
rise today in Committee of the Whole to present Bill 32 and discuss some of the questions that were raised in second reading. I would first like to extend my appreciation to the Member for Rocky Mountain House again for his amendment. I always appreciate the fact that within this Legislature not everything is guaranteed when it enters. We get the opportunity to vigorously discuss challenges that may come up or things that may have been missed by some people who reviewed the bill. I believe it was a much-needed amendment, and I appreciate the member bringing it forward. Just to review, Mr. Chairman, the Meat Inspection Amendment Act, 2008, proposes to transfer the inspection authority over mobile butcher facilities from Health and Wellness to Agriculture and Rural Development. Just as background, a mobile butcher facility occurs where a mobile butcher will be able to prepare, package, and store meat from an animal that has been slaughtered on the owner’s premises, in a provincially licensed abattoir, or in a federally registered establishment. Currently the meat inspection legislation administered by Agriculture and Rural Development only provides authority for licensing mobile butchers as individuals. Currently regulatory oversight of mobile butcher facilities is in the Public Health Act and the food regulations administered by Health and Wellness. Bill 32 sets out a basis for regulatory changes that will support Agriculture and Rural Development’s licensing and inspection of mobile butcher facilities. Agriculture and Rural Development will then have legislative authority over both the mobile butcher as an individual and the mobile butcher’s facility. We’re working toward a single delivery system under the authority of Agriculture and Rural Development, Mr. Chairman. Bill 32 also aligns with the Auditor General’s recommendation to eliminate gaps in food safety coverage, aspects of which dealt with mobile butchers, and consistent administration of the meat facility standards. There were some questions that came out of second reading, Mr. Chairman, that I would like to address now. First, I’d like to respond to the questions that came from the hon. Member for Edmonton-Riverview. He expressed concern with repealing section 3 of the Meat Inspection Act. The repeal was perceived to limit the authority of public health officers. This is not the case, though if that were the case, I would express just as legitimate a concern as the member did. I can assure all members that the proposal to repeal section 3 is merely a housekeeping amendment. The authority of public health inspectors is granted in accordance with the Public Health Act. The authority under that act exists today and is in no way impacted by Bill 32. Agriculture and Rural Development officials consulted with Health and Wellness officials to determine the authority currently provided by section 3 and that it is no longer needed and has never been used in the past. The system of food establishment permits under the Public Health Act’s food regulations currently provides public health inspectors with the authority to inspect mobile butcher facilities. Public health inspectors also have broad inspection authority under section 59 of the Public Health Act. Section 59 authorizes public health inspectors to conduct inspections for the purpose of determining the presence of a nuisance. Section 62 of the same act, Mr. Chairman, provides authority for public health inspectors to issue orders to address nuisance concerns. As you can see, section 3 is being repealed due to being essentially redundant. I trust this addresses the member’s concerns. Now, the hon. Member for Edmonton-Centre is seeking the definition of a peace officer. She also inquired about the qualifications and training of peace officers and sheriffs. The Peace Officer Act defines “peace officer,” which I won’t read just because of time constraints. I would refer the member to the statute and also the extensive information regarding the matter on the website for Alberta Solicitor General and Public Security. In summary, there are a number of peace officers appointed, ranging from community peace officer up to an Alberta peace officer level 1. Meat inspection legislation is enforced by inspectors appointed by the minister, and these inspectors are appointed at the level of peace officer level 2, which is appropriate for a peace officer who possesses specialized knowledge applicable to the particular subject matter. Peace officers at level 2, Mr. Chairman, are well trained to conduct enforcement under the particular provincial statutes. Several members within this Assembly expressed concern for food safety issues such as the listeriosis outbreak, E coli concerns, the BSE situation that we went through recently, and of course testing for chronic wasting disease. Bill 32 is designed to address these concerns. Agriculture and Rural Development’s authority over mobile butcher facilities as proposed by this Bill 32 is beneficial from a food safety perspective. I can assure all hon. members that Agriculture and Rural Development is diligent in ensuring that appropriate procedures are in place to mitigate the risk of meat and meat products being contaminated. Provincially inspected meat processing facilities adhere to strict manufacturing and food safety practices. It’s worth noting that there has not been a single case of listeriosis in Alberta linked to a provincially inspected meat facility. Members raised the issue of the BSE crisis in the United Kingdom, here in Alberta, and of course BSE testing of meat. In response I can advise that Agriculture and Rural Development partners with the Canadian Food Inspection Agency to support extensive BSE surveillance programs. The hon. Member for Calgary-Mountain View inquired if meat is tested for chronic wasting disease before the meat enters the food chain. Agriculture and Rural Development does test for CWD in each deer and elk slaughtered in provincial slaughter facilities. The provincial meat inspection system is effective in protecting public health. Effectiveness is backstopped by Agriculture and Rural Development’s authority to suspend or cancel the licence for noncompliance with the legislation. Several members also expressed concern that the Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development currently plays a role in promoting the meat industry and will assume responsibilities now under Bill 32 for inspection of a small segment of the meat industry, that being mobile butcher facilities. 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ministry has served in a meat inspection regulatory capacity for many years. This is not a new role for the ministry. Dedicated meat inspection staff serve the public interest today. The regulatory services division of the ministry is responsible to ensure that meat plant operators adhere to the meat inspection legislative requirements. Noncompliance with the legislation is dealt with according to the minister’s compliance principles. If a meat plant operator is noncompliant with the legislation, measures are taken to achieve compliance as quickly as possible. One of the possible measures is, of course, as I mentioned, suspension of meat inspection services, which has occurred in the past to enforce legislative requirements that serve the public interest. The hon. Member for Edmonton-Riverview questioned the tiered approach, with the federal meat inspection standards being different from the provincial meat inspection standards. I understand the member’s concerns. I appreciate the concern about consistency and harmonization of standards. Agriculture and Rural Development shares this perspective and is working with federal and with provincial counterparts in the hope of achieving this goal. But Bill 32 does not address harmonization as the legislative changes needed are federal. In fact, it’s the Meat Inspection Act of Canada that needs to accommodate the vision of harmonization standards across the country. As well, questions during second reading were also raised by the hon. Member for Lethbridge-East. Additional information regarding the qualifications of meat inspectors was required. I can assure all members that the provincial meat inspectors are highly qualified professionals with extensive training. In fact, their initial training period lasts 12 months for newly hired meat inspectors, and ongoing training follows the initial 12-month training period. Most of the meat inspectors currently on staff are employed at the senior level with extensive experience and knowledge in meat inspection. As well, the hon. member inquired about the minister’s authority over country-of-origin labelling. I understand that the member opposite supports country-of-origin labelling, which is under federal authority. Country-of-origin labelling, unfortunately, is not legislated by the provincial Meat Inspection Act. In conclusion, Bill 32 is beneficial from a food safety perspective and a legislative-reform perspective. The bill transfers inspection authority for mobile butcher facilities from Health and Wellness to Agriculture and Rural Development. The bill streamlines regulations, Mr. Chairman, and reduces inspection overlap within mobile butcher facilities. The overlap exists now in that Agriculture and Rural Development authorizes the mobile butcher through the issuance of a licence, and Health and Wellness authorizes operation of the mobile butcher facility through the issuance of a food establishment permit. Bill 32 will reduce administrative duplication while promoting a consistent approach to food safety. Three members opposite inquired as to the transition plans and, specifically, assurance that the requisite knowledge over the particular mobile butcher facilities will transfer to Agriculture and Rural Development along with the inspection authority. Agriculture and Rural Development will work closely with Health and Wellness, regional health authorities, and mobile butcher facility operators during this transition period. The hon. Member for Edmonton-Strathcona also inquired if the transition would result in any undue financial burden for mobile butchers. I would like to say that the new amendment that was proposed and accepted helps ensure that there won’t be added costs for mobile butchers. Once licensed and inspected under the Meat Inspection Act, mobile butcher facilities will be required to comply with provisions set out in the meat inspection legislation and meet facility standards as regulated by Ag and Rural Development. Agriculture and Rural Development will be working with all mobile butchers in order to facilitate a smooth transition, Mr. Chairman, with no disruption to mobile butcher operations. The ministry will work with operators of mobile butcher facilities to improve food safety processes and procedures as may be needed. Agriculture and Rural Development will be visiting the facilities at an increased frequency to provide guidance and assistance to improve the safety of meat products being manufactured. I’m glad I had the opportunity to address the concerns. I strongly encourage all members of this House to give their full support to Bill 32. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.